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Tommo
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I have Fiction Book Editor, and some .txt files. But I can't import them.
How do I convert from txt,pdf,doc,htm...whatever-format into...Fiction book's format? |
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BuHHu_noX
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use BookDesigner and don't listen GribUser -)
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| BuHHu_noX писал(а): | | use BookDesigner |
Don't.
It's easy to start wherever you want with it. But it's hardly possible to finish where you want to, BD will drive you where it likes and you don't want to be there unless you make fb2 for private one-time use (which BuHHu_noX thinks to be the only case).
If you want to make a good-looking fb2 for the library, do not use BD. Really. |
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vvv
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| GribUser писал(а): | | BuHHu_noX писал(а): | | use BookDesigner |
Don't.
It's easy to start wherever you want with it. But it's hardly possible to finish where you want to, BD will drive you where it likes and you don't want to be there unless you make fb2 for private one-time use (which BuHHu_noX thinks to be the only case).
If you want to make a good-looking fb2 for the library, do not use BD. Really. |
You are wrong, old pal. As usually... 
All the features from FBD allowing to make valid fb2-books were added to BD about one half of year ago. But the users wishing to make library-valid books have to remember one thing: the "book for library" check box has to be checked.
If you do not care about the library validity of your books, it is strongly recommended not to check "book for library". In this case your books will look better because the validity requirements impose many restrictions on the book style.
However I would recommend to use FBD rather than BD because FBD provides the full unicode support (import, editing, and export).
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| vvv писал(а): | | You are wrong, old pal. As usually... |
The fact is 90% BD-made books are not even reasonably good. I can't say why (in fact I have some theories), but that's what I see. And that's what Aldebaran sees as well. And most of my or Ald's admins will confirm that, I think. I beleave most of thouse people wanted to make good boks but they all faied. Ok, not all, but most of them. You can't deny that. That's what I'm talking about.
Can't say anything about FBD thou, let admins coment... |
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vvv
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| GribUser писал(а): | | The fact is 90% BD-made books are not even reasonably good. |
The "fact" has to be supported by examples rather than by words. So...? |
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svt
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| vvv писал(а): | | ...make library-valid books... |
Yes, but "valid" not the same that "good". |
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vvv
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BD and FBD allow the user to assign any valid style for any element (upper case, lower case, proper case, etc). So, if the user prefers the upper case for the titles - it is his/her own choice rather than a default BD behavior.
However if such a freedom is against the home-made fictionbook.lib publishing rules - bad luck, poor library...
| svt писал(а): | | Yes, but "valid" not the same that "good". |
Very smart observation. For this reason BD has a checkbox "book for library". Unchecking this box the user will have much more possibilities to create a good-looking book. |
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Stranger
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| Добавлено: Пт Дек 16, 2005 20:37 Заголовок сообщения: |
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| GribUser писал(а): | | The fact is 90% BD-made books are not even reasonably good. |
Unfortunately, Gribuser is absolutely right. The books made by BD-users usually are total shit. Moreover, these books are flooding the library and I have no idea how one could change that.
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vvv
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| Stranger писал(а): | | Unfortunately, Gribuser is absolutely right. The books made by BD-users usually are total shit. Moreover, these books're flooding the library and I have no idea how one can change that. |
From the viewpoint of these ones who wants to change the name "fictionbook.lib" by "fictionbook.prison"
I am repeating again: a book style has to be "user-defined" rather than "GribUser-defined". For this reason BD and FBD have many options allowing the users to change easily a book style according to their tastes. And, for sure, they are using these possibilities: "so many man, so many minds"...
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Stranger
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vvv
Fictionbook.prison sounds much better for my ears than Fictionbook.storage-of-ugly-BD-made-sort-of-books, as it is now  |
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vvv
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| Stranger писал(а): | vvv
Fictionbook.prison sounds much better for my ears than Fictionbook.storage-of-ugly-BD-made-sort-of-books, as it is now |
Ugly - according to your personal tasts. But who knows, for how many peoples they are acceptable...
Just think, why so many people are making these "ugly" books? I belive becase their tasts are quite different from yours... |
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Stranger
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| vvv писал(а): | | Ugly - according to your personal tasts. |
Nah, impartially ugly.
| vvv писал(а): | | But who knows, for how many peoples they are acceptable... |
It is acceptable for many users to read a book made in a slipshod way, so what? Let the library be the cemetry of mangy texts? I think our goal is to try to teach users to make neat and accurate books, not to let them finally flood the library with untidy book-like somethings. |
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